Why this happens is mentioned below. Apparently the Walther web site is incorrect. The fix is to replace the rear sight. P99 has a heavy trigger in SA? Nice review. On the negative side, the aluminum slide means the pistol is quite a bit lighter in weight than the centerfire ones, and being a firearm means it cant simply ship to your door like a conversion kit can. Press J to jump to the feed. Ergonomics: * ** * Does the PPQ .22 have a similar discrete barrel sleeve, or only that giant barrel adapter that sticks out the end of the slide when the slide is forward? The rear is adjustable for both windage and elevation. Rifled Barrel. The only downside is I cant find mags anywhere. That is an induction hardened piece, but it could break off eventually. and reblued it, PRO-BONO!!! Unfortunately it was not a pleasant experience. I only encounter this when I'm running it with a big suppressor. The simple fix is to replace the feed ramp. Actually adds another layer of safety. So, it wont have the full force to pull the extractor back. Just bought a 4" Compact, looking forward to getting it. Hannah Anderson is a gun enthusiast. I have always considered that to be much more reliable. Obviously the 12-round mags are approximately 20% more fun than your typical 10-round mags, and this helps to make the PPQ M2 .22 LR insanely fun to shoot overall. I could not believe that it was legal to sell such a piece of junk. So, the lugs on the barrel will not correctly align inside the locking block. Sold my Glock 19. The 9mm rounds Ive put through the PPQ include 115-, 125- and 147-grain FMJs from Federal, Armscor, and Blazer, 147-grain flat noses from Federal, and some hollow points. I usually carry a G30S, but sub in the PPQ occasionally, since it fits my 30S holsters very well and draws about the same to first pair. walther pps m2 recall. I wanted one in 9mm if there were no issues. Someone over at Walther said Hey the Americans like little chunks of plastic sticking out of the frame and was greated with Ok lets dril a hole in the frame and give them a button. For a gun that flows so well the button just feels out of place and the plastic they made it out of looks and feels cheap. i guess i coulda bought a ruger, they have phenomenal customer service. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. There is nothing dangerous about dry firing the pistol to disassemble. Archived. Lots and lots of cracked slides on many of the pot metal (zinc alloy) .22s out there. Several times, the PPQ went back into its case grimy, dirty and/or wet before I had the chance to wipe it down and clean it. PPQ-M2 9mm stock is ready to go. The trigger pull, especially on the first shot, is quite heavy. ThenI picked up and shot a PPQ. $34.99 . Incredible. Wife shoots PPQ-M2 9mm 4" in IDPA and it has not given her any problems in many 1000s of rounds. I also purchased the thread adapter separately to use a supressor later. I have a PPQ 9mm that's never skipped a beat. Not a single failure of any sort since taking it out of the box when it was brand new. Makes a fine little carbine and accuracy at distance with just the pistol is amazing. The solution is to replace ammunition and use something more powered up. 2 of my friends already bought one. It seems a pain to have to remove the threaded barrel adapter/sleeve every time you want to disassemble and clean the weapon. No zinc alloy here. We love how there's now threaded versions and also versions that come with a laser. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. . - Failure to feed/Failure to go into battery. The version of the PPQ with a slightly longer trigger reset is called the VP9. I personally do not want to own a firearm from a Company that will not stand behind their product. Wrong magazine: Having a wrong magazine can also cause failure to feed. Adding to that, when racking the slide if I ride it forward, I can actually let go when I feel some friction and get the slide to stick on the barrel and it just overall feels super gritty racking the slide. I love my PPQs. The reach to the trigger is comfortable and the trigger pull is light enough to be easy and controllable but heavy enough that it isnt hazardous for less experienced shooters. The edge on the extractor claw may become rounded. Press down on both sides of the take-down catch. Yes, I dont like that you need to pull the trigger to remove the slide, but there is no decocker. My strong preference is for copper plated bullets though as it limits your exposure to lead. I have several pistols, among them the PPQ. Failure to stay open is the failure for the slide to lock to the rear on the empty magazine. Replace the ammunition for fixing this issue. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The PPQ has a 100% pre-cocked trigger thereby making it Single Action. I smiled when I saw that, as it will prevent the steel slide stop from wearing away at and rounding out the notch. The subjective difference between a PPQ and a PPX is about $250. Id love to see a head-to- head comparo of the PPQ and the PPX to see what exactly is different about them, subjectively. That doesnt explain GLOCK conversion kits running, though. Also you could use P99 mags in a M1 PPQ and there was at least one aftermarket mfg who made them for those guns, the M2 mags are proprietary and only Walther makes them currently. And apparently this gun is actually manufactured by Walther, and not by Umarex. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. BOOSTEADY Universal Handgun Cleaning kit GLORYFIRE Universal Gun Cleaning Kit Hunting Hoppe's No. So, you are going to make sure you replace that. That being said, shooting the PPQ is a blast! I purchased the PPQ 22LR and it has functioned flawlessly . The PPQ is a very simple design in the vein of GLOCKs, and the few controls on the pistol are right where you need them to be. (This was with the original sights, havent shot with the Trijicom yet). The trigger is a dream to shoot, the short reset in particular allowing for faster shots and superior accuracy. I can proudly say I own both the P99 AS in 9mm and a PPQ M2 in .40 and i find both guns to be almost on par with one another. Walther has a great warranty. I consistently hit a 10 inch plate at this distance using Remington Viper ammunition. I had never shot that round before. This release is also reversible; in a number of seconds, it can be refitted to accommodate a lefty. Does anyone have the same problem? It has serious carry problems, as I learned. PPQ 45 is an efficient gun with good ergonomics. We are planning to add a suppressor, a green laser and weapon light combo. Try a spare magazine, repair or replace it. Due to the thinness of the top of the slide the foot at the base of this screw needs to be as large as possible. Ive got ~2500 rounds through my M1 at this point. Desirably ergonomic, smooth firing, reliable, accurate, loaded with a double-stacked magazine of 9mm, large enough to serve as my go-to sidearm for outdoor activities and yet condensed and light enough to be my concealed carry or self-defense piece if I need it to be, this is definitely one of my personal favorite handguns. The straightforward fix to this is to clean your chamber. Height: 5.4 inches. Ive had mine since May. The P22 has normal pistol style but is downscaled and much smaller, so you can still tell its a .22 mostly due to the tiny grip circumference. Any problems or concerns with yours? The 45AUTO version has had reported issues with the material quality of their barrels. The PPK/S .22 has a small barrel sleeve that fits over the end of its threaded barrel. Fix this issue by cleaning and lubricating your pistol. My PPS M2 came with the rear site moved over so far to the right that is will not co witness with optics. This particular PPQ is the M2 model, which was released in 2013. Got rid of it and replaced with a Ruger SR22. New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, Gun Review: Taurus GX4XL T.O.R.O. I haven't had any problem with printing even with my "slight" frame. Dead trigger: One reason for failure to fire is the dead trigger. There arent many pistols that feel better in the hand than the PPQ. I did, which is why my PPS M2 will likely be my last Walther. To fix this issue, inspect the barrel and make sure it is clear. I hope Walther will be able to correct this in the future if the PPQ keeps up its popularity, but for now the customization options are sadly disappointing. These troubleshooting tips will cover everything from failure to feed, to failure to eject. Its a marked improvement over any other pistol Ive ever fired, and its what I look forward to the most when I shoot the PPQ on the range. Broken striker after dry fire practice: If you do dry fire practice without snap caps, then your striker will break. And by deficient I mean it's the same as every other polymer striker-fired handgun on the market. ; Bang Pull the trigger. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Replacing the ammunition is the fix to this problem. Did I read that new Walther PPQ M2s are having issues? The slide is incredibly easy to rack when the hammer is cocked, which is basically all of the time unless you dry fire it or encounter a dud round. My first 10 shots were great and close to center. In terms of overall application, I view the PPQ as an excellent alternative to the GLOCK 19. potentially concealable I can only imagine that the 5 version with its longer sight radius and fiber optic front (something Im used to from my competition gun) would be even better not that it would matter under like 30 yards, where I feel like Im basically incapable of missing with the PPQ .22. Running 22 pistols with my cans is just too much fun. I love love love me a good Walther PPQ, although I completely disagree with you on the button mag release. and .4-inch travel. Now I have to go hunt one down for my AR. Total Points = 95 out of 100 possible. Certainly there are many manufacturers who make button releases that are truly ambidextrous use, the M2 is much like the G19, in that it requires a configuration change to switch. Considering how good that gun was, it was clear I had to get my hands on Walthers .22 LR version of the PPQ. Even though Im right handed, I practice shooting with my left as much as I can. When I hold the PPQ, it melts in my hand. How to properly maintain & trouble your Walther PPQ handgun hosted by Larry Vickers.Lets be friends on Social Media:https://www.facebook.com/WaltherArms/ htt. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for FACTORY Walther Magazine Mag for P22Q 10 Rd 22 22LR Clip P22 512604 at the best online prices at eBay! If this Tactical version came with tall suppressor sights Id feel differently, but it doesnt so I dont. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. Mentioned below are its causes and solutions. Jan 17, 2013. Why does it even matter ? So, yes, the groups above show that PPQ M2 .22 is pretty accurate. Its red and sticky. You actually reminded me I should probably get it looked at and fixed. Dead round: When the round doesnt fire on ejecting out, and you see a good dent on the primer, the chances are that the round is dead. An unintentional magazine release means that the magazine drops unintentionally. I also put lots of bare lead or waxed lead through the PPQ. My bet is that there are discussions elsewhere about this and would like to know myself. Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. The solution to this is that you replace it. Clean and lubricate your gun to solve the issue. The corrective measure to this problem is to strip the pistol and clean it. Its one of the most corrosion/wear resistant finishes you could ask for on a production pistol. The stainless steel construction is excellent. Youll find that basically everything about the ergonomics, controls, accuracy, reliability, quality, etc has carried over. I'd say if it's lubed, and eating good ammo it shouldn't jam up on you. At this point I am selling my PPS M2 and will buy a sig or similar replacement. Okay, shooting any gun to me is a blast, but I find a special kind of joy when I shoot the PPQ. It was my go to target gun and I was shooting 3 or 4 times a week. MSRP:$429 for 4, $449 for Tactical, and $469 for 5. What exact problems have been reported with the ppq m2 4"? I cannot believe the firearm left quality control like that. PPQ M2 is my goto range toy. Lets not forget just how great of a pistol the P99 is thou. it wouldnt be a big deal, but this was the first pistol i ever bought, so was very special, and now i am without. In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. I love this gun. Also the P22 and the M&P22 and probably others as well. Dont get me wrong, by no means do I consider myself a professional shooter. Customization: * * The other surprise was how comfortable it felt in my hand. Quick Reply to: I was shooting Winchester Ranger ammunition .40 S&W 165 grain. Check the chamber to confirm the pistol is unloaded. Oh, make sure its empty and in a safe direction. You dont need to pull the trigger to strip it. . Look here an we may be able to help you through the process of owning one, or many! The very workable sights, excellent trigger, and extremely low muzzle flip something you expect from a .22 thats made even better by the great ergos here allow me to take advantage of solid mechanical accuracy and shoot as fast as I can move my finger while staying right on target. If you're pressed on time, here's a quick list of the best sights for Walther PPQ M2: Meprolight Tru-Dot Self-illuminated Night Sight: Best Rear Sight. My wifes carry is the Walther PK380 with a similar grip and my Ruger SR22 is also patterned after the Walther P22 grip. Below is the probable cause of this problem and its solution. I have shot both and the M2 magazine release looks and feels like it was an afterthough. 4. Ive put this pistol through a variety of conditions and all I see are a couple of very light scratches that take concentration to be noticed. I wish they kept the old paddle release, I love that thing. I enjoyed my P22 but it was just missing something. Hard to pass up. Copper plated are just WAY cleaner. I understand theres also a set of grips called traction grips that can be installed and supposedly have more aggressive texturing to give the shooter a better grip on the gun. It has a molded polymer receiver and . Really how hard is it to remove the magazine, confirm the chamber is empty (visually and tactically), and point in a safe direction and pull the trigger? I kinda discount the NEOS because it has a slide insert that reciprocates rather than the whole slide. I had the chance to shoot a box of 50 through this gun. The PPQ .22 does not have swappable backstraps like the centerfire models do. When the slide is in a particular position and you press the trigger, it will prevent the striker from cocking. I just picked a Trijicom set. This looks perfect and matches my 9mm PPQ. I have put (my estimate) about 50,000 rounds through it. Their representative Conner in customer service, refused to have it returned for Walther to fix the firearm. Walther PPQ M2 Q5 Match 9mm . Just like we said in the 9mms review, it feels freaking awesome in the hand. The PPQ M2 is a true breakthrough in ergonomics for self-defense handguns. Purchase a Walther at your own Risk. Walther has scored another hit with the PPQ M2, and it just might be their most innovative pistol yet. That seems to help but I think its anecdotal if not imaginary. The magazine release is broken: This problem also occurs when the magazine release is broken. You anti-trigger-pull people must hate dry firing for practice then? I think its a very soft shooting gun for a 9mm, and my wife who barely shoots thinks the recoil is pretty minimal. In a bad situation, youre able to get more rounds more accurately on the adversary more instinctively..(if that makes sense!) I have heard of a few guys who have over 40,000 rounds . Walther PPQ Problems and their Solutions. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Walther destroyed their reputation with the P22, I know they produce good 9mm pistols but after the P22, I would never again trust the company. if they make this pistoly that would take my many Glock17 magsId buy two . Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. No offense but are you kidding? A lot of that was due to the weapons ban of the 90s and restrictions that were put on the pistol for importing to the US. Here are the different types of gun malfunctions and what to do about them: Squib Load. Now she has to decide between this one and the P22. They were pretty quick getting me an rma with a prepaid FedEx label, though I missed it for a few weeks because it was filtered to a folder I didnt check. Now for those who complain about pulling the trigger before disassemblywelldont you practice gun safety? Must admit it would be used primarily for steel plate shooting so the 5 is probably the better option. Trigger - Score: 9. Target acquisition with the FO sight is quick. didnt cycle consistently, and neither did Federal gold medal match (711B, 1080 fps). The momentum of the gun dropping back after recoil can be enough to cause ones finger to bump the trigger 0.1 inch and cause it to fire. To prevent this issue, keep fingers off the slide stop lever. back on november 16, 2018 we issued a recall on pps m2's with certain serial numbers. I know one of the brands has a solid reputation though. Good review. Some criteria are: Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. I haven't heard of any breaking, at all. This is not a small-scale "knock off" of the centerfire models. New. I havent cleaned or lubed it, though, and its still running like a champ. I tried a box of the cheapest Federal value pack bulk though, Im not sure what velocity that is rated at. Again, its back far enough that I tend to touch it with my strong hand thumb, which prevents it from moving up and locking the slide back on empty. Criteria and Considerations for Reviewing the Walther PPQ M2 4-inch 9mm. So, if you dryfire a lot, you have to have snap caps or dummy rounds to take that impact from the firing pin. Tastes like strawberry. The barrel sleeve handles all of the wear from the slide cycling and takes most or all of the load from anything you add to the muzzle (and it looks like a normal barrel when the slide is back. Walther PPQ M2 Tungsten 9mm. Overpowered ammunition: The overpowered ammo will blow the slide back so hard that it will engage the slide stop. Wish my SR-22 held a couple more rounds. 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